Mr WashBrain has some new prints out of a painty shoe - still however unoriginal this is and damn it is, he's not pretending to be something he isn't, he's showing some sort of progression (?) and it's better than other recent efforts by those who supposedly deserve more credit - worrying - oh and it's shit
He doesn't make his own work though does he? He probably just hired a more accomplished illustrator/designer.
ReplyDeleteIs is a Nike advert?
ReplyDeleteMBW is going through the lexicon of ads in his 'work'. Nike, Coca Cola, Starbucks, Heinz, Hersheys, Campbells, and on and on.... The people in the stock market must love him.
ReplyDeleteThere must be a point to all this but my eyeballs are bleeding!
Well, I know that Insa is sponsored in the UK by Nike to include their logo in his work, so maybe Brainwash has the same kind of deal in the U.S. Street art and advertising seem to have blended into one seamless entity.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, Hackney council have officially backed down and agreed to save the rabbit. Just thought you might like to know that Funky.
No doubt someone will now create a new petition to go even further and have it listed as a UNESCO world heritage site.
if I lived in London I'd go and paint a nike logo on that rabbit right now, as a protest against people wasting tax payers money by making councillors debate shit like this. FIX THE SCHOOLS AND HEALTH CARE FIRST. street art is only going to get worse if the kids making it don't have any fucking education!
ReplyDeleteNike asked me to be their "artist in London" a couple of years ago, despite the fact I was already living in Berlin. I said I could only work for them, Coca Cola, McDonalds, BP, or tobacco companies for a minimum of £250,000 - I'm happy to sell my soul if I at least get enough cash for it to buy a flat for my empty shell to dwell in for the rest of it's days. They got a bit arsey with me, and as you can see it didn't happen! What a great story. I was feeling depressed seeing this completely useless gif animation of shoes but my story of fighting the evil blood-sucking corporation and losing has made me feel so much better!
if this is Mr Brainwashes actual shoe, it says a lot, seeing as it's really long like a CLOWNS SHOE!!!
"if I lived in London I'd go and paint a nike logo on that rabbit right now, as a protest against people wasting tax payers money by making councillors debate shit like this. FIX THE SCHOOLS AND HEALTH CARE FIRST."
ReplyDeleteYeah, well that's a little simplistic, eh? I mean, what if you can only have one? Schools or healthcare? Which is it? As it is you can have a lot of both and maybe, just maybe, a tiny little bit of rabbit.
Personally, I couldn't give a fuck for the rabbit but find arguments reduced to such simplistic "this or that" terms irritating. I mean - what if the'd have offered you £249, 999.99 for your soul - would that have been enough? Then £249,999.98 wouldn't? Are you sure?
I would sell my soul for a Big Mac....yummy.
ReplyDeletePauly Paul - what a cunt
ReplyDeletepaulypauls arguments are non existent...sorry but what are you on about? it is simplistic - why waste hackneys council (one of the poorest boroughs in London) money on this petition and piece when said money could be spent in many many many other areas - hospital and healthcare included. Dave the Chimp was highlighting this point well, and it seems you are a ROA fan so i understand your view point. I used to work in a london council and hackney is so deprived of government funds, so the fact thatif they even paid one days wages at £50-£60 for this piece is sickening. if the shop owner wanted it kept, they (or the artist) should have plexi-ed that motherfucker up, but the council shouldn't be bothered about preserving it.
ReplyDeleteOne of the worst thing about the commercialism about street art is the new breed of streetartists who have more gallery shows/sales under their belts than illegal street hits. why is this a problem? because they forget about the rules of the street - which are different to the gallery game. in a gallery you can do what you want, its your show - your visual rules. on the street its fair game, and the government does not like graf (unless its banksy and its a tourist attraction - because he is a worldwide celebrity, unlike ROA), and will buff it. i remember you would be surprised if a piece on the street hadnt been buffed after 2 nights or a week. Street arts dilution has increased the whining of people who expect that certain pieces should be kept when other should be buffed. fucking buff it and get ROA to do another fresher piece. just because 1000 odd people like it does that make it right? what if theres 1500 people out there that doesnt like it? fuck that petition, the wast of time and everyone who signed it - and yeah thats my standpoint.
i would love this world to be a colourful place full of good pieces in the street, making the world a walking gallery, but fuck spending money on a giant (badly painted) rabbit, when said money could be spent on something far more important.
as for your second paragraph - wtf? start on the rabbit, then switch to what? dave the chimps nike comment? good writing there bro'! selling out is selling out, like you said - £2.50 or £250,000...thats why Dave didn't do it, and im sure you can see that tongue in his cheek
peace
Some good points made above, but as for it costing money not to buff this piece, surely it would have cost just as much (if not more) in paint and labour if they had actually buffed it?
ReplyDeletePersonally I think there should be 24 hour security put in place to make sure this piece doesn't get tagged over, with everybody who signed the petition forced to take turns in guarding it on a rota system.
the people who signed that petition wouldn't last two minutes on that street
ReplyDeleteRoa Roa Roa I do dead animals me and yeah, it was interesting at first, but after the 100th 'wow amazing piece man' comment, it's just well jaded. It's the fault of the Internet I guess, but for whatever reason, fuck it, do something more interesting and someone explain that art on the street is fair game - otherwise what is the point? Adapt and survive motherfucker
Jaxs - high praise indeed, sweet thing...
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - you miss my point. FWIW I am neither up nor down about ROA's work. My point is that it is not an either/or argument. A petition about this? Good - direct involvement of local people. The next petition might be about whether to keep open a local school, demolish a crack den or paint the fucking lamposts pink. Whatever. You'd be screaming if you wern't involved, and rightly so.
"just because 1000 odd people like it does that make it right? what if theres 1500 people out there that doesnt like it?" You're right. So maybe, erm, petition them? Maybe the people who did like it felt strongly enough about it to DO something about it. What did you do to express your you idea that it should be buffed and replaced?
You don't appreciate my segue into Dave's 'sellingout'? Fair enough, I can't be arsed to walk you through that as well...
I'd work for that list of cunts for less, as when I came up with that price (many years before nike asked) it was 1998 and I it was the price of a nice studio flat in Hoxton Square. It was me setting guidelines for myself, in what I am and am not willing to do, and for what. Now I live somewhere with much lower house prices, so would work for less (though not too much less).
ReplyDeleteI was telling a story, not making a comment about anyone selling out.
Besides, to me, selling out means giving in on your dreams and getting a proper job. Being paid to do something you love (draw and paint) can never be selling out, even if you work for Satan.
Giving up the struggle because you're just too weak willed is selling out. Because you're selling your time and energy to do something you don't want to do.
When I you sell art in a gallery I have no choice who buys it. I'd like to have a clause in my contract saying "the gallerist is not allowed to sell my work to child abusers, people who make money from the slave trade, or women who own a mink coat etc" but that would be impossible to do.
And when I paint in the street, it's like a gift to everyone. For all I know, my biggest fan could be a massive racist. I can't make a choice who likes my work.
I can make a choice who I work for though.
Kind of lost my thread now, sorry. I ate a big lunch and all the blood is in my stomach working, instead of my brain.
Anyway, I'd rather my tax money (your tax money, I'm not a UK resident) went to one day of nurses wages than one day of civil servant wages, so some suit wearing monkey can read a thousand names on a petition to save a piece of street art. ANY piece of street art. It goes against one of the unwritten rules of this game, which is that nothing lives for ever.
I know it's "not as simple as that" but when the government is in massive debt, wasting a days wages to deal with a painting on a wall is seems somehow disgusting. I am disgusted that people feel so self-important that they think their voice, as regards a piece of graffiti, should be heard.
Have you considered that maybe the person living next door to that wall hates that rabbit? That they probably called the council and asked them to remove it? Now, thanks to a bunch of tourist dickheads who go to the flower market on Sunday, they have to see something they hate every time they leave their house. Nice. Well done "street art fans".
If you were really fans of street art you'd be giving us money to continue making the world a more beautiful place. Signing an online petition is not supporting us. And don't say "I'm supporting you by buying your work in a gallery" because 50% of what you pay goes to the gallery, and most of what's left goes to studio rent, buying materials, etc, just so we can make the gallery work in the first place. The art you buy goes in your home, for your own private enjoyment, not in the street. The only people that really benefit from you buying work is you and the gallerist.
oh, you people make me SICK (mimes shaking his fist at the monitor while pulling a Popeye grimace)
anyway, I've got paintings to make now that my lunch is digested
peace out bitches!
x
sorry, I forgot that if you are one of the big artists you DO make shit loads of money from gallery sales. I was writing as someone who regularly only covers costs when making shows.
ReplyDeletebut the rest I stand by, you pesky kids!
'You don't appreciate my segue into Dave's 'sellingout'? Fair enough, I can't be arsed to walk you through that as well... '
ReplyDeletei thought comments are peoples way to expressing themselves, and to do that you need to actually WRITE down you ideas, thoughts and arguments. So not writing what you mean, and putting 'cant be arsed' is a giant waste of your time and marks you out as someone who doesnt care, which is quite funny seeing as you spent a while typing the previous, intelligent paragraphs. shame, you had me interested in what you had to say, but now i cant be arsed to listen
PS your previous paragraphs did change my mind a bit about the petition, in that it is fair local people have a voice, but id be interested to know how many of them are local, have seen it in the flesh, or are simply street art enthusiasts from somewhere other than hackney, who are big roe fans and care about saving a giant mangy rabbit. Can you imagine if i came down your road, painted a giant watering can, or something you dont like, and then as the council buff it, an online petition breaks,and is signed by a lot of people who lurk online and will never ever go down your road. the piece stays because of people who will never ever see it in the flesh....just an alternative argument...cant be arsed (just had to add that in to fit in with your faux nonchalance)
laters gay tories (more faux nonchalance, to appear as if i dont care about these comments even though it is evident i spent roughly 3 minutes typing this comment post out, which could have been better served doing...erm ANYTHING, but there is a strange pull to this board)
my last post was an addition to a longer post I posted just before it. which now seems to have disappeared, making the addition senseless. sorry
ReplyDeleteanyway, it occured to me that if Hackney Council asked someone to remove graffiti from their property, that means someone else complained about the graffiti. quite possibly the person whose front yard the rabbit is in. so now, due to a bunch of "street art tourists", that poor cunt living there has to see something they hate every time they leave the house.
I blame the blogs.
And the "Street Art Tour Guides".
"Please don't take the rabbit down off of the side of the cafe! It's where I take my tea break while running my tours!!!"
JUST.FUCK.OFF!!!
street art is not meant to be permanent. and it's meant to be discovered by people who are exploring. next thing you know we'll have The Disney Land Project, where the worlds top street artists are flown to California to "Bomb Main Street USA"
radical
actually, I might propose that idea myself... get my manager on the phone!!!
How about they all get flown to Miami Art Basel instead, to create a street art theme park? http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20101029/bs_prweb/prweb4716204_1
ReplyDeleteHow about they all get flown to Miami Art Basel instead, to create a street art theme park? http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20101029/bs_prweb/prweb4716204_1
ReplyDeletethe people who signed that petition wouldn't last two minutes on that street
ReplyDeleteRoa Roa Roa I do dead animals me and yeah, it was interesting at first, but after the 100th 'wow amazing piece man' comment, it's just well jaded. It's the fault of the Internet I guess, but for whatever reason, fuck it, do something more interesting and someone explain that art on the street is fair game - otherwise what is the point? Adapt and survive motherfucker
Well, I know that Insa is sponsored in the UK by Nike to include their logo in his work, so maybe Brainwash has the same kind of deal in the U.S. Street art and advertising seem to have blended into one seamless entity.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, Hackney council have officially backed down and agreed to save the rabbit. Just thought you might like to know that Funky.
No doubt someone will now create a new petition to go even further and have it listed as a UNESCO world heritage site.
MBW is going through the lexicon of ads in his 'work'. Nike, Coca Cola, Starbucks, Heinz, Hersheys, Campbells, and on and on.... The people in the stock market must love him.
ReplyDeleteThere must be a point to all this but my eyeballs are bleeding!