'I saw an article on Vandalog a while ago that was talking about the rise of street art that exists solely online. It was being celebrated as a creative new way of 'getting up'. The stunted thinking displayed in the article failed to recognise the fact that this type of thing isn't even street art. It's internet art that just happens to use the location of the street as a contextual gimmick. This practice increasingly serves to ghettoise 'street art' into something only seen within a very limited environment of street art blogs.
Furthermore, most 'street art' that's seen online nowadays is placed exclusively for the benefit of a small group of bloggers and those flickr photographers who specialise in taking street art photographs. This is why it's placed in an ever decreasing and saturated environment of a few piss-stinking alleyways that are only ever frequented by the homeless. The street art photographers encourage this by religiously sticking to the ever decreasing circle of a few well worn locations. The general public will never get to see this stuff. It lives and dies solely within the small online street art fanboy community that is it's target audience.
The artists have no ambition to reach beyond this tiny niche market. They have nothing they want to communicate to the wider public. Their sole rationale for producing work is to advertise themselves as a brand and hopefully follow the business model of the commercially successful street art brands such as Banksy or Obey.
So there is virtually zero authentic street art that now exists, everything is an advert, inward looking and stagnant. This situation is perpetuated by the street art bloggers who have somehow managed to make street art all about gallery shows and limited edition products. They are self appointed cultural commentators who exist mostly to fluff up their own egos, promote themselves as a brand and accept free gifts in return for publicising certain artists. These vile impostors have usurped what was once an authentic community art form and turned it into something sickeningly grotesque. It's the great street art swindle.
SO FUCK YOUR EXCLUSIVE MAGAZINE FEATURES, GALLERY SHOWS, LIMITED EDITION T-SHIRTS, KEYRINGS, MERCHANDISING TIE-INS, STREET ART TOURS, NAME DROPPING AND PRIVATE VIEWS. FUCK 'DOPE' 'RAD' AND 'AWESOME'. FUCK PRINT 'DROPS', CANVASES, BOX SETS, VINYL TOYS, URBAN ART, FAKE STREET ARTISTS, PHOTOSHOP STENCILS, LIVE PAINTING EVENTS, CONSERVATION FRAMING, PR AGENCIES, PRESS RELEASES, CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP AND STREET ART AUCTIONS, BUT MOST OF ALL...FUCK YOU, YOU PARASITE CUNTS, STOP SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF STREET ART FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL ENRICHMENT AND SO THAT YOU CAN CONSTRUCT A SOCIAL IDENTITY FOR YOURSELVES TO MASK THE FACT THAT YOU'RE REALLY JUST A BUNCH OF NERDY BOTTOM FEEDING WANKERS WHO HAVE ATTACHED YOURSELVES LIMPET-LIKE TO OTHER PEOPLE'S CREATIVITY!'
this brought a tear to my eye. So beautiful.
ReplyDeleteFirst i must say i fully agree with the angle that this post is coming from- but i want to ask when was Street Art ever 'an authentic community art form' ?
ReplyDeleteI ask because i think the majority of the people on this site have only followed this art form since the phenominom of Banksy and are disgruntled because this 'new' thing they brought into was so quickly diluted by a load of fakers.
It was an authentic art form in the days before the money and the internet hype became involved. I often wonder how many of these present day 'street artists' would even exist if it wasn't for those two things.
ReplyDeleteOh dear, this seems to have ruffled a few feathers on twitter
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VNAmagazine George Macdonald
If you really hate certain blogs, bloggers, magazines etc... Why the fuck are you reading them?
»ClutterGeoff Geoff Whitehouse @
@VNAmagazine I often wonder that...why bother. Don't like? Don't fucking read it then if I offends your sensibilities so very much!
@VNAmagazineGeorge Macdonald
@ClutterGeoff ...just plain cunts.
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Hahahaha, what the simple-minded preening egotistical fanboys fail to realise is that it's not about if a few of us happen to read their shitty blogs and magazines or not. Instead it's about the fact that they have set themselves up as spokespersons for an art form purely for reasons of their own personal aggrandisement and have proceeded to turn it into a vapid pile of hipster wank.
So, on the contrary, even though we might not like it, We still need to read their turgid self-serving output to witness why street art has so rapidly descended into it's present state of corrupt commercial bullshit, hype and fakery, and to understand exactly who is responsible for promoting this type of fucking cancerous obscenity.
S'why i ended up getting into graffiti, cause its still a lot free'er from the bullshit. Not entirely, but a lot.
ReplyDeleteVandalog doing street art tours for £10 a time says it all.
ReplyDeleteReally what sort of moron would pay for a barely formed foetus to lead them round the handful of streets/pissing grounds that constitute the official British street art scene?
It's especially ludicrous as his knowledge of art is basic at best and totally spoon fed to him via the same old galleries and artists which he regurgitates verbatim to his followers.
Can you imagine it? I bet it would consist of him pointing out the exact same pieces on his blog of the few artists he's alaways hyping and describing the work in the exact same way with a few awesomes and amazings thrown in for good measure. Followed by him herding the vapid flock to be fleeced round the usual suspects galleries who have easily bought his favour with a few trinkets and promises of VIP treatment.
To get known in the street art world nowadays you have to suck blogger's cocks. Simple as that. But if you happen to already be a well known artist (preferably international) then the bloggers will queue up to suck YOUR cock in return for being allowed to bask in your reflected glory for a little while and tell anyone who will listen that they're your friend. They crave fame by association you see. What else would they be without it? Not really very much at all.
ReplyDeleteIf this really is Dick Face which I doubt, you can royally fuck off as you're one of the worst whores in the scene with your paltry skills mainly based on sticking little wings on the same "Iconic" images you've applied a few illustrator filters to.
ReplyDeleteYep, VNA, Vandalog and Hookedblog, the 3 premier ringmasters of bullshit in the Shoreditch street art circus, with a few others following on closely behind.
ReplyDeleteThe way they've annexed street art as their own personal fiefdom and manipulated the flow of information to suit their own purposes is truly foul. I can't help but pity the legions of poor saps who are fooled by the whole stinking charade.
i hate the players and i hate the game .
ReplyDeletethis shit keeps happening though , adopt the counterculture and kill it by commercialising it until all thats left is a shrivelled corpse.
Real Punks not Dead.
Real Art (Street or otherwise) will not Die.
Fuck off and pimp your sisters/grandmothers/your own ass down the docks for a piece of silver instead.
I think all of the street art bloggers and most of the street artists are actually scared of the street. It's an alien place to them where they get terrified that some nasty graffiti writers might beat them up and steal their dinner money. This is probably why the spend nearly all their time hiding out in galleries. They feel safer there.
ReplyDeleteVandalog on twitter - "It's kind of cool that people think I have all this power over what art goes up in Shoreditch. I demand more Lister murals! haha"
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For fucks sake, he still doesn't understand. I swear you could write the message on a piece of wood and batter some of these cunts in the face 100 times with it and they still wouldn't get it!
We all know you don't control what art goes up in Shoreditch Vandlog. The point being made is that most 'street art' is being placed in an ever more narrow geographical area, purely for the potential exposure it might get on the internet though sites like yours. This means it's not authentic street art, but a form of viral internet advertising. The street has absolutely no relevance to it any more, except in terms of being a situational marketing ploy. You may not be responsible for the content of the art, but by choosing to focus only on one small area you have helped to create a self perpetuating feedback loop of cause and effect, and therefore you have to bear some responsibility for the way the practice of street art has degenerated into this absurd pretence.
What you DO have complete control over however is the narrowly biased version of 'street art' that you choose to present to the public. Most of whom never visit the few piss reeking backalleys that function as the internet 'gallery', so they rely on you and your fellow bloggers to inform them. You and others have chosen to abuse the positions you've assumed, by focusing on a highly selective misrepresentation of what constitutes street art. A misrepresentation that it heavily loaded toward serving commercial interests and your own friendships and connections.
At the moment, reading street art blogs is like trying to get accurate news from the Chinese state media. We're completely fucking sick of all the backslapping promotion of certain artists and galleries that seems to drag on forever. Did you really think we wouldn't notice that all of the blogs are like a continuous stream of adverts? It's like watching a fucking shopping channel.
Cue the tired old response that it's a personal subjective blog, blah blah. WRONG, once you and the other bloggers have set yourselves up as the spokespersons for an art form then you have a duty to provide impartial objective information. By failing to do so you are constantly severely damaging the integrity of street art as well as cynically betraying and exploiting your audience.
Nice rant! Few years to late.....saying that....a few years ago..a profit could be made from a lot of london based artists...thus no bunch of bitter londoners complaining about the 'scene' being hijacked/diluted..
ReplyDeleteNot trying to stir shit up but it's a FACT 4 years ago a profit could be turned on 80% of stuff available in London.First on the street then straight to prints and a few specials on metal/canvas/found objects
Fuck the toys, people who want to get up for the buzz or to say something will ALWAYS continue to do so
ZIPPY YOU FKN COKSKR - selling a faile paste up for 200 quid - YOu WANKR............
ReplyDeletethis could only be written from an opinion borne from finding art online, of course there is plenty more, but as rightly pointed out, it is not readily consumable online as it involves looking, so the argument is flawed unless the poster wishes to look deeper. It is a little like if a tree falls in the woods with no one around, does it make a noise?
ReplyDeleteNo, in actual fact this is written from the position of seeing art in the street, and then noticing the glaring discrepancy between that and what is portrayed online as being 'street art'.
ReplyDeleteMaybe the poster does look deeper, that's why they're so frustrated that the people who deliver online street art content won't also look deeper. In fact, by imploring them to expand their parameters beyond the very narrow scope they presently occupy, this in itself shows an awareness of art which is currently being ignored in the online realm in favour of only the banal and the commercially driven.
So fucking sick of hearing about Malarkey, Meggs, Lister and Ron English lately. It's hard to believe that the people promoting this shit aren't getting paid to do so.
ReplyDeleteI've noticed this time and again too. All to often you'll see work that's totally ignored that's got more merit in concept, placement and execution than the work that gets all the attention on blogs.
ReplyDeleteAnd you can guarantee that's it because of vested interests in flogging something down the line.
It can often get to some crazy levels of blatant omission as pieces by unknown/lesser known/uninvestable artists that can be right next to or in the immediate proximity of a piece by a blogger favoured artist will be totally overlooked.
And the omission will be repeated across all the blogs so you'll get the same pattern occuring across the board no matter if the piece is totally superior to the well known artist's.
It's phonomenon I like to call the blogging currency factor as they completely base their report on what's going to get them the most hits that can be converted into kickbacks and preferential treatment from the galleries/artists. Like you see bloggers getting the "exlusive studio tour or sneak previews" but the funny thing is it just ends up with practically all the street art blogs being totally homogeneous and indistinguishable with the same photos of the same work/show ad infinitum.
Now I think it's quite a good thing as ultimately it's going to hasten to drive the majority of the hangers on away as they'll get bored and go cling to some other new trend like internal vajazzling or extreme cupcaking.
Yes, well said. Completely agree about the blatant omission issue. At first I thought it must be that the bloggers just had really bad taste, but as you say it happens far too often not to be due to vested interests. Not sure about your last point though, I'd like to think that all of the bullshit will fall away and die, but in reality I think it will only lead on to an even more extreme version of the fakery that exists now. There's a lot of mug punters out there, new ones get into street art all the time and the hype merchants won't give up their little swindle easily because they've built their whole identities and lifestyles around it.
ReplyDeleteIt's a mixture of bloggers having bad taste and
ReplyDeletetaking kickbacks. Both factors come into play.
Vandalog is naive and starstruck. He thinks that
artists being in galleries must mean that they're good, and therefore
newsworthy. It doesn't. I just means they're commercial, and what is commercial
is usually weak, because it relies on the acceptance of the
mainstream.
He's also been indoctrinated into the world of
commerce from a young age, so is just following orders like a robot. I do
believe that deep down he has a bit of a conscience, and knows inside himself on
some level that what he's doing is wrong. It's just that now he's much too far
in hock to all of the galleries and artists to be able to stop. They will
continue calling in favours forever and so he'll continue to be their dancing
puppet.
VNA, well...what can you say about that bunch of
hipster muppets. The ultimate superficial poseurs, almost to the point of being
a comedic parody. Stupid clothes, stupid hats, stupid catchphrases. Selling
street art as an off-the shelf trendy lifestyle option to idiots with no
imagination.
Hookedblog...a two faced poisonous little cunt who
will happily pretend to be your best friend and solicit 'gifts' in return for
promoting anything you've got to sell, but who will then slag you off viciously
behind your back. Probably the most venal of the lot of them. Has made being
an amoral freeloading parasite into his life's mission.
Pretty sad state of affairs all round really.
The silence from the bloggers is deafening.
ReplyDeleteUm, we run VNA for no money cos we love art.
ReplyDeletethanks for the feedback yo, will take it to heart and buy myself some sensible shoes a good shirt. Big love, VNA x
ReplyDeleteNah, you run it for your egos, because you're a bunch of sad talentless knobheads. If you really loved street art then you wouldn't whore it out to brands at every chance you get.
ReplyDeleteThe wanker has even got a pair of customised trainers as his avatar. You couldn't make this shit up!
No you won't you lying fucker. You'll continue dressing like a hipster twat, and we'll continue to laugh at you.
ReplyDeletejust got back from three weeks in the wilderness
ReplyDeleteglad to see the quality of work on this blog continues to sink to new levels!
even happier to read this post. it was actually very good. shame you had to end with a final paragraph of capital letter shouting - no quicker way to destroy your argument than by losing your temper!
street art is just like everything else now, all about hype, fame and money. how boring. it's amazing how quickly something can become fashionable, then commercial, and then completely shit. 50 years in the future people will be selling other peoples ideas before they've even thought them...
Thanks for sharing what you think. From what I gather you're pissed off that some street art blogs aren't giving people 'the full picture'. I can only speak for myself, I blog for VNA and help run the mag. Never been paid a dime for the work and never sang the praises of a particular artist in return for any favours or free shit.
ReplyDeleteA publisher sends us a book? We write about it honestly and give the copy away in a competition or to another blog. We go to gallery openings and give our opinions and share pictures for those who couldn't make it.
Apart from that, we do try to get out there and find pictures in obscure places - (eg. http://verynearlyalmost.com/blog/2011/06/19/new-piece-in-ec/) but because this is all done in our spare time, we don't always get the chance.
The way street art is consumed and how it's been commodified is a big subject, and I think blaming a few blogs and individuals for the decline of a whole movement seems pretty dumb to me, but whatever.
Feel free to come have a chat at the next VNA launch, dude. But I understand if you'd rather stay at home anonymously posting bile because it's easier to bitch about the system than do something productive about it.
Lying or sarcasm? At least the 'twat' isn't a moron.
ReplyDeleteDouche
of course i fucking won't. your faceless opinion isn't going to change what i wear. it's cool, i'll change it to a picture of me, so we can continue the conversation when you're next chugging the free beer someone else sorted out for you at the next art show you're slagging off.. x
ReplyDeletegee, they were a birthday present from a talented friend of mine a few years ago, sorry you didn't get a pair too.
ReplyDeletekeep hating, haters..x
VNA
Fuck the next VNA launch. Nice try how you even managed to turn this thread into an free advert for yourself though.
ReplyDeleteEvery time I see you lot I think I must be watching an episode of Nathan Barley. Except back then it was "the idiots are winning", now it's more like "the idiots have won".
Don't bother changing the pic, I'll just imagine you as a nerdy little hipster prick who is so desperate for everybody to think he's cool that he lives his whole life is a giant fucking pose. Go write about some sneakers or whatever it is you do. Boring cunt.
ReplyDeleteSeems like you didn't get the double sarcasm then.
ReplyDeleteDouche nozzle.
Cool, well thanks for engaging in the conversation, there.
ReplyDeleteClearly, haters gonna hate.
Enjoy chucking your toys out the pram and let us know if you've ever got something useful to contribute.
Oh, and don't forget:
www.verynearlyalmost.com loves you x
Oh, I get it. 'Lying fucker' = double sarcasm.
ReplyDeleteNice try, retard.
interesting.
ReplyDeleteindeed the way to make something truly uncool and vacuous is to over promote, endorse and affiliate it.
Untill everyone is sick to death of it and the hangers-on tip the boat over.
Such is the death of all scenes. (take skateboarding)
It will die away and some at point we will all have to find something else.
Traditional Graff will remain, its too entrenched. It alone will weather the storm.
Personally, Im more interested in the quality of the work than the hype and the culture. The question for me is "is work getting better or worse and is it still exciting me?"
for the most part, im afraid it is not.
Street art is NOT dead.
but it is very very unwell. and the future doesnt look good.
cool, will do, hater x
ReplyDeleteVNA
Yeah we're fucking winners. All day every day. x
ReplyDeleteVNA
No point in trying to engage with obsessive self-promoters who are in complete denial. Plus anybody who trots out adolescent lolspeak cliches like 'haters gonna hate' really isn't worthy of being taken seriously.
ReplyDeleteSpare us all the bullshit about 'contributing'. You don't lot contribute anything to street art except continually exploiting and selling it out to the highest bidder. Go find another fashion trend to attach yourselves to like leeches and suck the life out of.
Funky, can you delete their adverts. They're trying to use this place to sell their shitty products. Can't say I'm surprised though. Their whole business model is based on being a bunch of fucking parasites.
More adverts? Bunch of shameless cunts ain't ya.
ReplyDeleteYep, obviously I knew he wasn't being serious, so I played along as if I believed him. That's probably a bit too complex for an idiotic prick like you to understandthough. Go suck your VNA bosses dick or something and stop making yourself look stupid on here.
ReplyDeleteYou're a bunch of arrogant egotistical hipster mugs all day every day.
ReplyDeleteNice points. This reminds me of a recent interview with Matt Hoffman on the punk rawness of BMX vs. the commercialisation of Skateboarding.
ReplyDeletePersonally I just love art, whether it's tags on the street or classical oils in museums. It's bigger than street art or galleries and who's hot and who's not. People have been making marks on walls since day dot. Go check out the BC film, DOTS for an insight into ancient aboriginal culture:
http://www.babelgum.com/channels/180829/featured/play
Some 'street art' I like, some I don't, I'm not the be-all and end-all of what's good, it's a personal opinion. I'm glad there are people opposing what we do, it's healthy and reassuring that other people care enough about what they do to stand up for what they believe in.
We put VNA out there because we can, we're just putting down what we see. Of course we have to get advertising to get money to publish the mag, it's a necessary evil. Form your own opinions, put us down or big us up. We still got love for art, that's what we're about x
VNA
Couldn't have put it better myself.
ReplyDeleteI'm out of here.
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR ADVERTS VNA. EVERY TIME YOU POST YOUR LINK YOU JUST REVEAL WHAT A BUNCH OF PUBLICITY SEEKING SPAMMERS YOU ARE.
ReplyDeleteYOUR ADVERT LADEN MORONIC MAGAZINE ONLY EXISTS TO TRY TO BOOST YOUR OWN PERSONAL STATUS SO THAT YOU CAN PRETEND TO BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE GEEKY FASHION OBSESSED NONENTITY SHOREDITCH TWATS THAT YOU CLEARLY ARE.
YOU DON'T LOVE THE ART, YOU JUST LOVE THE EASY ROUTE IT GIVES YOU INTO PRETENDING THAT YOU'RE 'COOL' AND HOW IT MASKS THE FACT THAT YOUR EMPTY LIVES HAVE NO MEANING OR TALENT.
IF YOU REALLY LOVED THE ART THEN YOU'D LISTEN TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE KILLING IT WITH COMMERCIALISM, THEN YOU'D SHUT DOWN YOUR SHITTY LITTLE MAGAZINE AND FADE BACK INTO THE SUBURBAN OBSCURITY YOU CAME FROM.
VNAx
ReplyDeleteNice. Think we've just found our catchy new tagline. VNA
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How fucking patronising are these cunts, assuming that we need an insight into aboriginal culture, like we've never heard of it before!
ReplyDeleteVNA are like a bunch of desperately uncool subnormal children grasping for an identity, so they decided to latch on to street art and milk it for whatever they could in the hope that some of the glamour might rub off. Now they think they're some kind of rock stars by the sounds of it. Sad thing is, they're the only ones that that share that delusion. The rest of us can clearly see what gimpy fanboy tossers they are, and we're fucking laughing at them.
Dr Funky, feel free to delete my earlier posts, to be fair they were all pretty wind-up. My points below still stand. Peace x
ReplyDeleteThink maybe I'll send the link to this thread to all of VNA's advertising clients. See how many of them want to continue to be associated with such smug incessantly self-promoting cunts. You might think you're being clever by spamming this blog with your links, but I reckon you'll find it's going to backfire on you big time. Not wise to create enemies when you're trying to sell something in the tiny goldfish bowl world of street art. Everytime you reply on here your potential sales figures drop like a stone. Please feel free to carry on though, another few hours of this and your brand won't be worth shit.
ReplyDeleteWherever you find creativity you'll also find the
ReplyDeletepredatory spivs lurking in the shadows. Too mentally vacant to create anything
for themselves, so instead they feed off of other people's talent and
effort.
Whether it's advertising agencies scanning street
art websites for the latest ideas to rip off, or bloggers and magazine writers
acting as the middlemen, packaging up and selling off the intellectual real
estate of street art to the mainstream masses until only a hollow pastiche of it
remains. They're really nothing more than commission based salespeople, each
desperate to get their slice of the pie.
They may profess to be in it for all the right
reasons, and I'm sure many estate agents or double glazing salespersons would
claim to be acting out of altruism too, but the cold reality is that dollar
signs are flashing up wildly in their eyes like a fruit machine. Be on your
guard and don't ever trust them.
skateboarding is far from dead sir!
ReplyDeleteit's healthier than ever
ok, so most kids buy into the mainstream side of it like the muppets they are, but that can be a good thing too, as their tax paying parents want somewhere for their kids to play and so councils are building a lot of new concrete parks in the UK
since I moved away from London three years ago they built the fantastic Mile End park, the bowls in Clissold park, and the Viccy Park bowl is half complete (not forgetting that they rebuilt Cantalowes and Stockwell and built a little bowl in Finsbury Park in the two years before I left town)
so there's still plenty of idiots hurting themselves in proper skateparks to make up for all the floppy fringed kids who are just in it coz it's so cool
still plenty of DIY ethic. I'm riding wheels poured in the town I live in, I shaped my own board, and I know people that build illegal spots here
I guess, with street art, we just need to look a little further than the obvious places. Then we'll see there's still people doing it for the fun, for the kicks, for the adventure - just like with skateboarding
So forget Vandalog and their ilk, go look at some "local scene" blogs. after all, blogs are like diaries, and it's more interesting to read a real persons life than read some made up stories by someone trying to be cool
here's one to start you off, just street art from Toulouse - http://zooloose.ekosystem.org
You're unlikely to find anyone on their that you've ever heard of before/seen in a gallery
it'll hardly change your life, but it's refreshing after seeing all the usual suspects time and time again
The street art bloggers are nothing more than paid PR agents for the galleries. FACT.
ReplyDeleteThey're just another layer in the giant stealth marketing scam known as commercial street art.
Master the art of intellectual self defence and don't be taken in by the hype. There's far too many avaricious cunts with an agenda swarming through this scene like piranha.
Cheers for the link. I just looked through quite a few pages on there and there's some really good stuff. A lot of it is better than most of what's going on here in London, and certainly better than the same boring old 'celebrity' street artists we keep getting shoved down our throats on the commercial blogs.
ReplyDeleteVNA - vapid nauseating arseholes.
ReplyDeleteYou're probably arrogant enough to not care but I for one will never by your mag again after today's pompus little outbursts on here.You've really made yourselves look like a right old bunch of cunts. Well done there.
Too right. I would boycott it too, but I stopped buying it ages ago when it turned from a zine about London street art into a slick corporate advertising magazine full of wanky overseas graphic designers nobody cares about and boring commercial artists like Eine and Shepard Fairey. Basically it's a mainstream dullfest that's about as cutting edge as Radio 4.
ReplyDeleteI see their latest issue has a feature about Burning Candy. Not surprised the VNA lot love them...they've got a lot in common, both being groups of middle class posers trying desperately to be 'street' and failing miserably.
Oh what you're trying to funnel us to go watch a film by your fellow hipster bum buddies in order to get an art education? I'm sorry but unlike your heroes I didn't study at the Royal College so I must be a simpleton that needs special schooling in the form of a video made by some art whore cocksuckers.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you expect from someone who posts as Rolls Royce? Speaks volume of this little tick on the scabied dog that is street art.
ReplyDeleteThere is far too much negativity aimed at VNA here, it's silly and misplaced. zines are not to blame. they have no power, they are just an obvious head of the hydra-like downfall to lash out at. But you know what happens even if you slice off its head.....
ReplyDeleteOne cannot keep a overly popularized concept
it will fade
such is the tidal nature of style, art/youth culture and fashion, design, music, whatever
it goes out then it comes back
it builds, it erodes
so dont be King Canute on the beach
your cries are lost.
It's not a zine though Hicks. I wouldn't mind if it was. It's more like a corporate in-flight magazine for advertising executives.
ReplyDeleteBut I agree with you that it's futile to try to stop the hordes of locusts stripping street art bare for their grubby little profit and status motives. There's just too many of them. The hangers-on and vultures vastly outnumber the interesting creative people, most of whom have seen what's happening and have already moved on. Best just to let it die now.
it´s the same with real punks as with jesus: they never existed. didn´t your mum tell this?
ReplyDeleteReally good comments. Like them #cause you know what youre talking about. Go out and tag your 1st wall come back and wait for the reactions! I already laugh my head off!
ReplyDeleteWe're not talking about tagging though are we. Any retarded child can tag a wall, and they often do. Nothing really to be proud of.
ReplyDeleteJust look at some real Graffiti
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http://londoncitygraff.blogspot.com/