Boxi usually the anaesthetic of street artists, all real life with none of the interest but plenty of the tedium. Then somewhere in amongst it, he does what should be the ultimate dull work and somehow it turns out, quite spectacular?
Fucking hell Funky you've been staring at street art blogs too long as it seems repeated viewing of the bland, the pointless and the shameless that cognitive dissonance is seriously affecting your judgement if you think this might be good art.
Where next for Poxi? A stunningly clear stencil replication of an Allied Carpets carpet sample book? Wow! you can almost feel the depth of that Axminster!!!
Its well executed but its an idea from a really fucking old story. http://graphics.stanford.edu/~hanrahan/talks/realistic-abstract/walk003.html Kind of makes me wonder if he's making claims of being the best realist stencil artist or something? Or is he just ripping off an old idea?
Why even bother stencilling it though? I don't see the point. If he wants that level of photo realism he might as well just display a massive computer printout of a curtain. Or better still, a real curtain.
and no matter how photo realistic it is - it isn't - because it's shades of grey, and life is in colour! Maybe grey scale can look more real than real though, in a strange way. Like the way a black and white movie can be way more visually appealing/impacting/effecting than a colour one.
I'm not sure it's spectacular, but it's kind of good, and sure beats another stencil of a person (shame he had to make a stencil of a person too...)
There's no way this looks more real than real...it just looks like a photoshop filter, which is how he separated the tones. I fucking hate photoshop filters, it's like looking at a really low-res image with no transition between the shades, just massive jumps between black, dark grey, light grey etc. I understand that's how he needed to do it in order to stencil it, but as I said before, why bother? It's machine art that anyone with a computer and access to a laser cutter could do. If he had painted it with a brush and actually blended the tones together to make it look realistic then I might have been impressed. (at the skill level, not the concept).
The guy has obviously got a lot of patience and attention to detail, it's just a shame he seems so trapped in the tired old gimmick of replicating photographs.
ITS A FUCKING CURTAIN! IF SOMEONE STUCK A CURTAIN THERE WITH NO CONCEPT/REASON THEN IT DOESNT MAKE IT LESS OF A PILE OF SHIT. A TURD IS A TURD, AND IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY LAYERS OF STENCILS IT TAKE TO REALISE THAT. IM OFF TO MAKE A 1000 LAYER STENCIL OF SOME GRAVEL. WHY? BECAUSE ITS GOING TO LOOK REALISTIC THATS WHY. SO IN 20 YEARS TIME MY CHILDREN WILL ASK ME WHAT I DID, I CAN SAY LOOK! I PAINTED SOME GRAVEL REALISTICALLY.
Silly cunt, you couldn't answer the question because you had been made to look stupid, so you started talking shit about Rolf Harris. Get back to your photoshop cutouts you no-talent mug.
Nah, I know you're not the artist. You're just an idiotic fanboi who is easily impressed. I meant get back to wanking over photoshop. The rest of us got bored with that about 10 years ago.
Reminds me of that Italian wanker who used to do 100 layer stencils of things like the queue at the Cans Festival. All the subnormals on .info loved it. It must have taken him months to do and was amazingly accurate in it's execution, but in the end it just looked like a boring photo of some people queing up, with the contrast turned up in photoshop to make it a bit grainy looking. Surely one of the most pointless wastes of human activity ever undertaken.
he cuts the stencils by hand, there's a video of it on the same blog
and as for it being pointless we could argue that making any kind of art is pointless. what's the point in making a tv show for that matter? or writing a book? or playing football?
people do stuff because they enjoy it
and as for the concept, I'm sure there is one. it's no doubt referencing something in the history of art or literature or whatever
that's the problem with the internet - we're presented with things without any context and then we rant on about those things that we know nothing about, other than what they look like at 72 dots per inch at a couple of centimeters square
the internet is a bullshit way of consuming/considering art (and most other things for that matter)
right, got to get back to the real world now, five minutes online is enough for one day
Well, if he cuts them by hand then it's an even bigger waste of time than I thought. He obviously doesn't mind a machine aesthetic, as evidenced by his blatant use of photoshop tone separations, so he might as well go the whole way and get them machine cut too.
Sure, he might enjoy cutting them by hand, but it doesn't make the art look any better. Making art in general isn't pointless, but spending 3000 hours trying to exactly replicate the look of a shitty low-resolution photo with stencils feels pretty pointless.
Maybe there is a concept behind it, but viewing it in the gallery wouldn't really give any more context than can be seen on the video would it? It would still just be a stencilled curtain in an empty white room. Perhaps there would be a small piece of text near it to inform people what it's about, but if an explanation needs to be read to understand it then the art has failed to adequately communicate in the first place.
I agree that cutting incredibly detailed stencils is a waste of time but then, maybe we're only here on this planet to do exactly that waste time I mean, why else would I have revisited this thread, other than to waste time (and because I'm a bit stoned and my brain keep jumping about from place to place)
I would like to see this piece in a gallery, as it has a blue glow behind it. If that blue glow looks like the first light you get in the morning, telling you a new day is on it's way, then for me this becomes a fantastic piece of art as it tells me that everything is ok, life goes on, no matter what bullshit you're going through every day is a fresh start. focusing on the curtain is focusing on technique rather than feeling your own self in relation to the work of art. I'm not even looking at the curtain, the curtain is virtually irrelevant, the curtain is just there to make me see that there is a window there, behind the window a new day, and so for me all I would see is hope.
I really like this piece now, despite my fatigue at looking at grey scale stencils, because of the idea it's given me. I don't care if the idea of a new day just around the corner is the idea Boxi wants to present, because the idea comes from my own imagination, and if a piece of work can make you think, engage your imagination, create something yourself, then it must be a good piece of art
Yeah dude...I just looked at the curtain in my front room and I started tripping out. It was like a mystical experience and shit. Everybody should stare at curtains, it's awesome.
Why even bother stencilling it though? I don't see the point. If he wants that level of photo realism he might as well just display a massive computer printout of a curtain. Or better still, a real curtain.
ITS A FUCKING CURTAIN! IF SOMEONE STUCK A CURTAIN THERE WITH NO CONCEPT/REASON THEN IT DOESNT MAKE IT LESS OF A PILE OF SHIT. A TURD IS A TURD, AND IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY LAYERS OF STENCILS IT TAKE TO REALISE THAT. IM OFF TO MAKE A 1000 LAYER STENCIL OF SOME GRAVEL. WHY? BECAUSE ITS GOING TO LOOK REALISTIC THATS WHY. SO IN 20 YEARS TIME MY CHILDREN WILL ASK ME WHAT I DID, I CAN SAY LOOK! I PAINTED SOME GRAVEL REALISTICALLY.
Fucking hell Funky you've been staring at street art blogs too long as it seems repeated viewing of the bland, the pointless and the shameless that cognitive dissonance is seriously affecting your judgement if you think this might be good art.
ReplyDeleteWhere next for Poxi? A stunningly clear stencil replication of an Allied Carpets carpet sample book? Wow! you can almost feel the depth of that Axminster!!!
Its well executed but its an idea from a really fucking old story.
ReplyDeletehttp://graphics.stanford.edu/~hanrahan/talks/realistic-abstract/walk003.html
Kind of makes me wonder if he's making claims of being the best realist stencil artist or something?
Or is he just ripping off an old idea?
Why even bother stencilling it though? I don't see the point. If he wants that level of photo realism he might as well just display a massive computer printout of a curtain. Or better still, a real curtain.
ReplyDeleteand no matter how photo realistic it is - it isn't - because it's shades of grey, and life is in colour! Maybe grey scale can look more real than real though, in a strange way. Like the way a black and white movie can be way more visually appealing/impacting/effecting than a colour one.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure it's spectacular, but it's kind of good, and sure beats another stencil of a person (shame he had to make a stencil of a person too...)
There's no way this looks more real than real...it just looks like a photoshop filter, which is how he separated the tones. I fucking hate photoshop filters, it's like looking at a really low-res image with no transition between the shades, just massive jumps between black, dark grey, light grey etc. I understand that's how he needed to do it in order to stencil it, but as I said before, why bother? It's machine art that anyone with a computer and access to a laser cutter could do. If he had painted it with a brush and actually blended the tones together to make it look realistic then I might have been impressed. (at the skill level, not the concept).
ReplyDeleteThe guy has obviously got a lot of patience and attention to detail, it's just a shame he seems so trapped in the tired old gimmick of replicating photographs.
If that's stencilled then it's fucking awesome skills!
ReplyDeleteWhere exactly is the skill in using a photoshop filter and a laser cutter?
ReplyDelete^^ get back to yer Rolf Harris grandad
ReplyDeleteITS A FUCKING CURTAIN!
ReplyDeleteIF SOMEONE STUCK A CURTAIN THERE WITH NO CONCEPT/REASON THEN IT DOESNT MAKE IT LESS OF A PILE OF SHIT. A TURD IS A TURD, AND IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY LAYERS OF STENCILS IT TAKE TO REALISE THAT.
IM OFF TO MAKE A 1000 LAYER STENCIL OF SOME GRAVEL. WHY? BECAUSE ITS GOING TO LOOK REALISTIC THATS WHY. SO IN 20 YEARS TIME MY CHILDREN WILL ASK ME WHAT I DID, I CAN SAY LOOK! I PAINTED SOME GRAVEL REALISTICALLY.
Silly cunt, you couldn't answer the question because you had been made to look stupid, so you started talking shit about Rolf Harris. Get back to your photoshop cutouts you no-talent mug.
ReplyDeleteLol, you're talking to me like I'm the actual artist!
ReplyDeleteMoron!
Nah, I know you're not the artist. You're just an idiotic fanboi who is easily impressed. I meant get back to wanking over photoshop. The rest of us got bored with that about 10 years ago.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of that Italian wanker who used to do 100 layer stencils of things like the queue at the Cans Festival. All the subnormals on .info loved it. It must have taken him months to do and was amazingly accurate in it's execution, but in the end it just looked like a boring photo of some people queing up, with the contrast turned up in photoshop to make it a bit grainy looking. Surely one of the most pointless wastes of human activity ever undertaken.
Its that Tauba Auerbach girl, innit! Curtains to match the mattress?
ReplyDeletehe cuts the stencils by hand, there's a video of it on the same blog
ReplyDeleteand as for it being pointless we could argue that making any kind of art is pointless. what's the point in making a tv show for that matter? or writing a book? or playing football?
people do stuff because they enjoy it
and as for the concept, I'm sure there is one. it's no doubt referencing something in the history of art or literature or whatever
that's the problem with the internet - we're presented with things without any context and then we rant on about those things that we know nothing about, other than what they look like at 72 dots per inch at a couple of centimeters square
the internet is a bullshit way of consuming/considering art (and most other things for that matter)
right, got to get back to the real world now, five minutes online is enough for one day
laters haters
Well, if he cuts them by hand then it's an even bigger waste of time than I thought. He obviously doesn't mind a machine aesthetic, as evidenced by his blatant use of photoshop tone separations, so he might as well go the whole way and get them machine cut too.
ReplyDeleteSure, he might enjoy cutting them by hand, but it doesn't make the art look any better. Making art in general isn't pointless, but spending 3000 hours trying to exactly replicate the look of a shitty low-resolution photo with stencils feels pretty pointless.
Maybe there is a concept behind it, but viewing it in the gallery wouldn't really give any more context than can be seen on the video would it? It would still just be a stencilled curtain in an empty white room. Perhaps there would be a small piece of text near it to inform people what it's about, but if an explanation needs to be read to understand it then the art has failed to adequately communicate in the first place.
Good piece of art that is. I like it.
ReplyDeleteI agree that cutting incredibly detailed stencils is a waste of time
ReplyDeletebut then, maybe we're only here on this planet to do exactly that
waste time
I mean, why else would I have revisited this thread, other than to waste time (and because I'm a bit stoned and my brain keep jumping about from place to place)
I would like to see this piece in a gallery, as it has a blue glow behind it. If that blue glow looks like the first light you get in the morning, telling you a new day is on it's way, then for me this becomes a fantastic piece of art as it tells me that everything is ok, life goes on, no matter what bullshit you're going through every day is a fresh start.
focusing on the curtain is focusing on technique rather than feeling your own self in relation to the work of art.
I'm not even looking at the curtain, the curtain is virtually irrelevant, the curtain is just there to make me see that there is a window there, behind the window a new day, and so for me all I would see is hope.
I really like this piece now, despite my fatigue at looking at grey scale stencils, because of the idea it's given me. I don't care if the idea of a new day just around the corner is the idea Boxi wants to present, because the idea comes from my own imagination, and if a piece of work can make you think, engage your imagination, create something yourself, then it must be a good piece of art
Yeah dude...I just looked at the curtain in my front room and I started tripping out. It was like a mystical experience and shit. Everybody should stare at curtains, it's awesome.
ReplyDeleteIts that Tauba Auerbach girl, innit! Curtains to match the mattress?
ReplyDeleteWhy even bother stencilling it though? I don't see the point. If he wants that level of photo realism he might as well just display a massive computer printout of a curtain. Or better still, a real curtain.
ReplyDeleteITS A FUCKING CURTAIN!
ReplyDeleteIF SOMEONE STUCK A CURTAIN THERE WITH NO CONCEPT/REASON THEN IT DOESNT MAKE IT LESS OF A PILE OF SHIT. A TURD IS A TURD, AND IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MANY LAYERS OF STENCILS IT TAKE TO REALISE THAT.
IM OFF TO MAKE A 1000 LAYER STENCIL OF SOME GRAVEL. WHY? BECAUSE ITS GOING TO LOOK REALISTIC THATS WHY. SO IN 20 YEARS TIME MY CHILDREN WILL ASK ME WHAT I DID, I CAN SAY LOOK! I PAINTED SOME GRAVEL REALISTICALLY.